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Friday, August 18, 2017

Civil War 2.0

Whose side are you on, asks Pat Buchanan:
First in his class at West Point, hero of the Mexican War, Lee was the man to whom President Lincoln turned to lead his army. But when Virginia seceded, Lee would not lift up his sword against his own people and chose to defend his home state rather than wage war upon her.

This veneration of Lee, wrote Richard Weaver, “appears in the saying attributed to a Confederate soldier, ‘The rest of us may have … descended from monkeys, but it took a God to make Marse Robert.'”

Growing up after World War II, this was accepted history.

Yet, on the militant left today, the name Lee evokes raw hatred and howls of “racist and traitor.” A clamor has arisen to have all statues of him and all Confederate soldiers and statesmen pulled down from their pedestals and put in museums or tossed onto trash piles.

What has changed since 1965?

It is not history. There have been no great new discoveries about Lee.

What has changed is America herself. She is not the same country. We have passed through a great social, cultural and moral revolution that has left us irretrievably divided on separate shores.

And the politicians are in panic....

While easy for Republicans to wash their hands of such odious elements as Nazis in Charlottesville, will they take up the defense of the monuments and statues that have defined our history, or capitulate to the icon-smashers?

In this Second American Civil War, whose side are you on?
This is why the Fake News is so desperate to draw a mythical line between Nazi vs Not-Nazi, rather than Nationalist Right vs Globalist Left, as the situation actually requires, because they know they fall on the weaker side that is actively opposed to American heritage and history and tradition.

And it is also why they are desperate to hide the obvious link between the coming civil war and post-1965 immigration. History clearly shows that there are only two ways to stop this war. One is to proactively break up the United States and implement population transfers, the other is to restore the pre-1965 population demographics through mass repatriations.

Neither solution is likely. Man seldom takes the opportunity to avoid war. That's why he is doomed to fight them. The citizens of the USA are not exceptional in this regard.

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118 Comments:

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 18, 2017 5:25 AM  

This can be hideously depressing if we don't remember certain truths;

This is how we've always been.

In spite of this, civilization still rises.

Ultimately, we will win.

In the meantime our purpose is to make ourselves strong and defend the weaker among us from the predators. Our families, friends, communities, countries.

Blogger exfarmkid August 18, 2017 5:26 AM  

Nationalist Right vs Globalist Left

Very good phrasing. Thank you.

Anonymous Looking Glass August 18, 2017 5:30 AM  

This also goes to why Alt-Left is so brutal of memetic rhetoric. It puts into relief the "Old Left" vs the "Alt-Left". The Alt-Left can't hide the rolling Communist impulses. Also, we can tie both Globalist & Islamic terror under "Alt-Left Terrorism".

The G-E has blessed us with the far more nasty equivalent of calling someone a "racist". Remember, when the poo gets annoying, just ask: "What are you, one of those Alt-Left Nazis?". Watch their heads explode.

Blogger Lovekraft August 18, 2017 5:54 AM  

Natural vs forced. Jesus Christ, it could be argued, was a natural force of good, fighting against man's earthly rebelliousness.

This awareness gives us much moral and spiritual strength and is better than an ideology that can be easily 'swept up in the times.'

Sure, we can and will squabble over this or that aspect of Christ's message, but ultimately it is the starting point from which one acts. He taught us to look inward and question 'why?'

Look at the alternatives - GloboJihadInc, the Tribe, Marxism, Pure Unfettered Capitalism. They may provide temporal comfort but fall short in producing stable minds.

Blogger Lovekraft August 18, 2017 5:56 AM  

Anyone think taking the 'problem' of the far, far right (who we shouldn't cast away like garbage - the majority have very real grievances) and trying to find constructive responsibilities for them a good idea?

Every event needs a Security Detail, no?

Blogger Scire August 18, 2017 5:57 AM  

Uber sent out an email this morning. I wonder who proof read it,

"
We will act swiftly and decisively to uphold our Community Guidelines, including our policy against discrimination of any kind—this includes banning people from the app."

Fight discrimination with... Discrimination!

Blogger Kona Commuter August 18, 2017 6:17 AM  

When it looked like Hillary was going to win I honestly believed we (I'm not an American but my country has been lock step with your foreign adventures) were on the cusp of war with Syria & by extension Russia. Well I panicked and stocked up on food but being a man of meagre means that meant that wasn't that much.

Trump won & even though I repeatedly said that the victory merely bought us time for what's coming I didn't do terribly much other than "play" at prepping.

So here we are. The West is about to go full retard and I have enough food for my family for *maybe* 6 months, and enough ammo *maybe* for one serious encounter or a couple of "Get off my lawn & take your mates body with you" discussions.

So that brings me to my point. We're all hard up for spare cash. Here's a plan to have enough "food" for one person for one year, a gun and a few odds and sods for $1,000 (US).

http://www.lulu.com/shop/james-m-dakin/the-frugal-survivalist-digest-version/ebook/product-22800545.html

Blogger Mister Excitement August 18, 2017 6:19 AM  

If you're paying attention and are still not a "prepper" then you better get started.

Do your research for "prepper" on Youtube. Lots of great info there.

And for goodness sake, get out of the cities. At least have a fallback position in the country somewhere with provisions.

Look at what's happening right now in Mexico or Venezuela. Look at the Balkans in the 90s.

Get your preps in order.

Blogger Kona Commuter August 18, 2017 6:19 AM  

Whilst I'm at it. I note that Joe Rogan got called out by a "friend" because he was favouring Right Wing in his interviews. Joe seems to be Red Pilled but can't say much because it'd have enormous consequences on his career. If only he understood that the Left don't spare friends

Blogger Phillip George August 18, 2017 6:22 AM  

$25 dollars per hour to be a thug at a confected outrage ANTIFA rally, a (((CNN))) fake news event, pitted against a fully infiltrated stunt Hegelian thesis-antithesis pseudo social nationalist cartoon characters right in defense of a non existent history.

I think that sums it up.

Totally enabled by police on stand down on Deep State orders.

Pray for Trump. Prayer is the last line.

Blogger Mister Excitement August 18, 2017 6:32 AM  

@9

My small Gen-X contribution to life in America when I was a kid:


Politics wasn't ALL PERVASIVE in literally every aspect of our lives. Most certainly not bizarre Leftist politics.

It's too bad Joe Rogan even has to mention any politics on his podcast, which is mostly celebrity interviews from what I've noticed.

But that's where we are now.

Blogger Sherwood family August 18, 2017 6:37 AM  

Pray. Not just for Trump, but for your wives and your children and your grandchildren yet unborn. Repent and ask Almighty God to forgive us and give us strength to bear what must surely come and to avoid what may still be averted.

Blogger Stilicho August 18, 2017 7:11 AM  

There is no appetite foe mass expulsion/repatriation yet, so what may be done as a practical matter?

1. Build the wall.
2. Deport illegals.
3. Revoke citizenship and deport immigrants who failed to uphold their side of their agreement to become Americans (i.e. Felons, dual citizens, those who demonstrably oppose America, can't speak English, those who can't support themselves, etc.). If they do not meet their obligations (and those are all obligations/conditions for legal immigration and naturalization), then we have no obligation to let them become or remain citizens. Promises were made. On both sides. If one party breaches the contract, it nullifies the obligations of the other party.
4. Withdraw federal funding (including tax exemptions)for all NGOs. I don't care if there are "good ones" like your local church. The current system is forcing us to fund our enemies. Your local church etc. Doesn't have to pay taxes on money donated to it even without tax exemptions and it will be just fine without the federal dole if it is actually a church. Leftist "foundations" not so much.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Penguins Fan August 18, 2017 7:17 AM  

The best we can hope for now is that Trump can pull a Gorbachev and break up the United States relatively peacefully. Considering the economic stability that seems to be coming our way that may just be what happens. Maybe that's why he was installed in the first place?

But that will not avoid the sectarian violence in places like Chicago and Baltimore, though it may be contained in a clean break up.

Anonymous Starbuck August 18, 2017 7:20 AM  

The citizens of the USA are not exceptional in this regard. - VD

That is wrong! Obama said we are the exceptional nation. We are the exceptional people. Except people like me who believes the liberals are completely retarded and is really working hard to get itself executed.

other then that he was spot on.

Anonymous Philipp August 18, 2017 7:25 AM  

So the choice for the U.S. is either to break up like Czechoslovakia or like Yugoslavia.

I would prefer if Trump (with Pat Buchanan as his advisor) negotiated with Obama a peaceful separation and non-violent population transfers.

However I believe a violent break up with ethinic cleansing is far more likely.

Blogger Stilicho August 18, 2017 7:25 AM  

@penguin the cities will all burn to one degree or another. Too many concentrated tribes and animosities.

Anonymous The Manne August 18, 2017 7:27 AM  

Seems like you're backtracking

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 7:32 AM  

@7

You better find someone(anyone) other than that nutcase. His info will get you killed. He actually pushes a starvation diet of 1K worth of calories. You DIE following his advice.

Get some Ragnar Benson books, get the free LDS Manual and Nuclear War Survival Skills book, all free online.

I would stay away from most "Prepper" books since the 90s, most just repeat themselves and have no real value.You can find all that they sell you for high prices on line.

Water & food before guns & ammo!

Anonymous Luke August 18, 2017 7:33 AM  

6. Scire August 18, 2017 5:57 AM
"Uber sent out an email this morning. I wonder who proof read it,

"
We will act swiftly and decisively to uphold our Community Guidelines, including our policy against discrimination of any kind—this includes banning people from the app."

Fight discrimination with... Discrimination!"


The criminals at Ubercab will largely be toast by the end of next year, I predict. Who GAF what they do, while auguring in, their engines out, @ss visibly on fire, their control surfaces all broken off, canopy stuck closed, and ejection seat nonresponsive?

Blogger rumpole5 August 18, 2017 7:36 AM  

I believe that we will come to a point where recent arrivals will either assimilate to our cultural norms or be removed. Then we will be back to the task of culturaly digesting the descendants of the problematic groups that were unwisely admitted into the USA prior to 1900.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer August 18, 2017 7:37 AM  

The cities will have to burn because they are where the dividing lines between each faction lie. Rural "Fly over country" is not nearly as fractured despite Obama's attempts to change that fact. There will be people to expel from those communities but they are relatively small groups compared to the local populations.

The major problem areas are the cities with 500k and up populations in the middle of red states. Relocating those people is going to get messy.

Anonymous Walter Oleg August 18, 2017 7:38 AM  

The White Rabbit has said that it will all come down to being pro-White or anti-White. I didn't want to believe this but it looks like this is at least partially the case.

What this is really all about is exclusion. The globalist presupposition,or narrative,or frame demands that White humans and really all humans be force-integrated together against their will and ruled by a one world government filled with dark occultists and pedophile rings.

It is them, the Pharasees who are anti-diversity, it is they.
We'ith of the Alt-Right live the Logos according to.
The Logos saith exclusion, discrimination,and niche is His way.
Rebellion against the Way brings judgement. Jesus WILL judge you on the Day of Judgement.
The Kingdom of Heaven is exclusionary.



Blogger Durandel Almiras August 18, 2017 7:43 AM  

Good Lightstream Vox! Needed to be said. I like PJW and Mike, but watching Mike's Periscope this morning, it's similar doom and gloom crap that undermines moral and misses the bigger picture.

Have you given either of them all of the 4G warfare books that Castalia publishes?

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2017 7:43 AM  

Whites are tired of being the scapegoat. It's simply not a role they're willing to play anymore. Despite the efforts of anti-white racist organizations like the ADL and SPLC, whites are finally beginning to stand up and say "no more".

The white peoples of the nation are surrounded by modern anti-white versions of Julius Streicher's "Der Sturmer" throughout the MSM and the overall culture. We need to defend ourselves before the inevitable genocide against us arises.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2017 7:46 AM  

Stand up and fight anti-white racism. No one is going to do it for us. Organizations like the ADL and SPLC actually promote it.

Blogger Lucas August 18, 2017 7:46 AM  

The war will happen. That is (also) why the GlobLeft is importing military-aged muslims into Europe. That way, the White man has to fight the cops and the GloboLeft's desert soldiers.

Blogger Kona Commuter August 18, 2017 7:46 AM  

EasyCompany wrote:@7

You better find someone(anyone) other than that nutcase. His info will get you killed. He actually pushes a starvation diet of 1K worth of calories. You DIE following his advice.

Get some Ragnar Benson books, get the free LDS Manual and Nuclear War Survival Skills book, all free online.

I would stay away from most "Prepper" books since the 90s, most just repeat themselves and have no real value.You can find all that they sell you for high prices on line.

Water & food before guns & ammo!



I'm listening.

Full disclosure - I've been "playing" prepper for quite some time. I'll be honest. I've wasted all that time and it was more of a hobby to justify buying some neat toys.

To be fair to Lord Bison his plan is 1500k calories and sitting out the nonsense on junk land.

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 7:51 AM  

@7

Here are some very good, and real, options for survival.

The Basics of Stocking a Retreat For One Year, by Buckshot
https://survivalblog.com/the-basics-of-stocking-a-retre/

Great Depression II What Will it Be Like?, by Buckshot
https://survivalblog.com/great-depression-ii-what-will/

You are “Not” a Survivalist? — by “Buckshot”
https://survivalblog.com/you-are-not-a-survivalist-b/

“Buckshot” on Commercial Fur Trapping Versus Survival Trapping
https://survivalblog.com/buckshot-on-commercial-fur-tra/

You'll find others of his articles on Survivalblog, just search under "Buckshot. Don't bother much with SurvivalBlog. It lost its value long ago.

Also go to: http://www.assaultweb.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

I was the Survival Mod at AssualtWeb for a few years and collected many articles from the web that actually had real value.

Also go and get on the mailing list for http://shtfschool.com

This is Selco's website. A guy who went through the Yugo Civil/Cultural War and survived. You WILL learn a lot of real value skills and insights from him.

Stay away from FerFal. He's a fool and he thinks himself an expert on all things.

Blogger James Dixon August 18, 2017 7:53 AM  

> Man seldom takes the opportunity to avoid war. That's why he is doomed to fight them. The citizens of the USA are not exceptional in this regard.

The only thing exception about us in war is the number of people killed. That's going to be a harsh lesson to re-learn.

> Relocating those people is going to get messy.

Using messy as a euphemism for bloody, yes.

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 8:03 AM  

@7

1500K will still kill you, just a little slower. You need at least 2500 to even 5000 cals a day, mattering where you live and how hard you work. But if you read his website he does push 1000K too.

His "advice" on junk land in the US is another killer. He would have people buying desert and near desert land, with no water, as good retreats. No water, no root crops, you have to truck it in($$$).

You have too remember this guy has married and divorce several times. He has, until recently, finally finished paying for child support and works at a Salvation Army type store.

He can't afford better. He doesn't own a car because of the reasons he gives, he cannot afford one!

And he's given up on the junk land since he moved in with a women that has her own house.

He exists because people with no, or little, money like his ideas, but if you actual try it, you be in a world of hurt.

FerFal is like Bison. He only keeps going because he pushes the BS line that you can survive better in the city then the country. He get the people that can't or won't leave the city.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 8:05 AM  

It's clear that Section 8 served two purposes:
--free up valuable land for gentrification, lining the pockets of all the fat political piggies lining every city trough.
--shuffle us all together, so that when a period of strife does arrive, we'll all be too busy Playing Hatfield & McDindu to hunt down the political hacks and their crony-capitalist money-men who took advantage of us.

Civil War 2.0 analysis has the same problem as all other war modeling: studying history leads to preparing to fight the last war, at the last war's generation (of war.) What if the entire "prepping manual" is our modern day Maginot Line?

Is what we face akin to what followed the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia? What Argentina experienced post 2001? Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, Mao's Cultural Revolution (h/t to Pat Buchanan for weaving that in) or the War to Prevent Southern Secession?

Beats the stuffing out of me.

What is different in these times?
--The All-seeing Eye of Sauron ---er--- the NSA.
--Near total dependence on long supply lines among the vast majority of people, especially the Red Archipelago (democrat-stalwart cities all.)
--Stratospheric expectations among people for ever-improving "next gen" living, including receipt of promised future cash flows (Soc. Security, pensions, LINK, AFDC, Midnight Basketball, and a multi-million dollar government grant for anyone who can mug for the TeeVee News.)
--The machinery of government, and the Lifestyles-of-the-Rich-and-Famous 0.01% elite, all depend on HIGH TECH, which is supplied by a coterie of rather intelligent proletarians. You can't have reaper drones in the sky without a truly MASSIVE infrastructure of skilled "normies" supporting them. If TPTB f-up our society enough (a la the Cheka in Russia), the entire edifice falls.

What all this means is beyond my integrative faculties.

Anonymous FractionalSense August 18, 2017 8:05 AM  

Hmm, it would seem that if TSHTF for real, and I think it will, lots of folks-namely Russia and China will be eager to send "helping units" under the banner of humanitarianism. Especially in California and some adjacent border states (at least parts of them) for China and Alaska of course for Russia. I'd imagine Alaska will be annexed asap-depending how engaged the military is on other matters such as martial law.

Man in the High Castle may have been more fortuitous than realized.

Blogger Weouro August 18, 2017 8:10 AM  

Obviously Lincoln isn't the man we thought him to be. What kind of leader would recruit an open racist to the highest position in his organization. Google fired James Damore for much less. The Lincoln Memorial must be removed.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 8:13 AM  

@30 FerFal's critique of the Mel Tappan theory (living in isolation, surrounded by barbed wire and--if possible--claymore mines) strikes me as valid. Cities full of "can't-do's" don't look very promising (especially since pandemics often accompany economic depressions) but it only takes a drive through Wyoming to realize what you face if you try to move into the middle of nowhere. (Hint: Every inch of land in North America is owned by someone...and you can only get so far off the grid.)

Small town America looks best to me, but there's not much of it left now and moving into it at this point still makes you an outsider...in a time when being an outsider might not be the healthiest approach. One of our problems is that "Diversity, Inc." has made us all outsiders.

I respect, if not envy those who are naturally gregarious, who in an earlier time would be members of the Jaycees, the Elks, the Moose, the Odd Fellows, etc., etc. It is probably those people who will fare best under the difficult conditions ahead, because they naturally create the large social relationships people once took for granted as THE means for mutual support and defense.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2017 8:20 AM  

This is divided and rule.

It's a distraction. As long as the plebs are fighting among themselves, nobody notices the thieves (i.e. the global financial elites).

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 8:24 AM  

The Lincoln Memorial must be removed.

They already destroyed one Lincoln statue in Chicago. Of course, there's no love lost for Lincoln among commenters here. But not for the reasons they burned his statue. He was white -- that's all they need.

They'll probably end up destroying statues of blacks too. It's not like any of them know any history and actually know who the people being honored are, and statues of blacks could be "cultural appropriation" in the eyes of the mostly white Communists looking around for something more to tear down.

I'm not sure how long it will take for normal people to realize this isn't about Confederate statues or racism. It's about destroying everything that represents civilization, good, and beauty, as the Left has always done. Maybe it'll kick in when they start widespread defacing of churches. Maybe not.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2017 8:24 AM  

Antifa are merely paid goons. They're a private army of billionaires like Soros. I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of them aren't linked to the FBI, law enforcement or elements of the deep state.

Keep your eye on the ball. Don't take your eye off billionaire globalists. They hide behind the chaos THEY create.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 8:25 AM  

One observation:
People will do almost anything for order. Not survival, necessarily, but order. Look at the great starvation pogroms of the commies; people largely sat still and took it...and died by the tens of millions.

Ditto the Chekist purges in Russia. What did Solzhenitsyn tell us? Would that people have resisted, that when they came for us in the dead of night, they had been met with pitchforks and axes?

People didn't resist. Or at least, the history we're told is that they didn't resist, which could simply mean that the MPAI didn't resist and the NON-IDIOTS found ways to SSS or melt into the background, leaving nothing for historians to record of their successful approach to surviving such evil.

The "order" that prevails doesn't have to look anything like what we expect. Pol Pot's "order" (slaughtering 20% of his fellow citizens) was still order of a sort, and took place ONLY because there was an adequate level of popular consent to sustain it for the period it lasted.

For this reason, I don't see how on Earth the path ahead is some sort of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome meets The Walking Dead. People are simply far too innovative to see that through. Or so I think.

Just remember, "I fought the law and the law won," is axiomatic. The "law" is whatever ordering principle "the people" (in all their idiocy) consent to at any one time. You can no more fight "the law" than you can go to literal war with all your neighbors. This is why, in the end, it's the shift in popular consent that ushers in change, not bullets and bombs.

OpenID peppermintfrosted August 18, 2017 8:27 AM  

There is another way. We don't need ultranationalism if His Majesty the God-Emperor can guarantee the rights of everyone, but that will require abandoning democracy.

Everyone knows that in a multi-ethnic democracy with freedom of speech, everyone is going to vote for their ultranationalists, and there's going to be a war or peaceful partition.

It didn't matter what the Hitler thought, or the Serb and Czech ultranationalists, until that Serb ultranationalist shot the archduke and started the war, at which point Hitler fought for the emperor and got gassed, and the Czech unit in the Habsburg army went ultranationalist and betrayed the Emperor, and the Empire broke up into independent ethnostates (why not kin realms or nation states or ethnopoli).

Us White Americans can have our freedom of speech and other rights provided there is a mechanism for everyone's rights to be guaranteed, meaning that prevents us from using our rights and our natural power from cucking everyone else. That mechanism is His Majesty the God-Emperor.

Meanwhile, mixed people like Vox natually have a place in the Holy American Empire.

What we can't have is free speech and democracy in a multi-ethnic state.

Under the monarchy, we could even have eventual partition by setting aside certain territories where the only one ethnicity's children are allowed starting with White Appalacia and the Black Belt.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 8:31 AM  

it's similar doom and gloom crap that undermines moral and misses the bigger picture.

Personally, I'm going to disconnect this weekend and get away from the constant doom-and-gloom drumbeat. We're being gaslit like crazy, even by well-intentioned people on our own side. If you spend too much time reading online right now, you can start to feel like President Trump is five minutes away from impeachment, Americans are turning against him and us in droves, and everyone to the right of Fidel Castro is about to be kicked off the Internet anyway. Gotta get away from that and touch base with reality once in a while.

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 8:33 AM  

@33

And like Tappan said:

Not everyone is going to move to a survival retreat.

Boston T. Party in his book Survivng Y2K has a list of survivalists. He put the number at around 2-3 million while the real hard core are only at a few thousand, those you actually having a functioning survival retreat.

There is more than plenty of land for those who really want to be ready, but almost none will.

That's why FerFal is popular, even though he only wrote one book, and not a very good one, and he just pushes the "city or die" line. That works for those who wife would never leave the city and the malls.

The being the "Outsider" isn't anywhere as bad as it was. like back in the 80s. Now, so many people have moved everywhere and moved again, it's not so bad.

Even when true it can work to your advantage. People leave you alone, which in some rural areas is a very good thing. You don't always need to be "plug in" with the locals.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2017 8:35 AM  

@31:

No one really knows. We see only outlines now. Events are moving so fast analogies aren't necessary. Who would have thought just three years ago the nation would be such a tinderbox this quickly? Many, I suspect, but it wouldn't include me.


While easy for Republicans to wash their hands of such odious elements as Nazis in Charlottesville, will they take up the defense of the monuments and statues that have defined our history, or capitulate to the icon-smashers?


Events of the last 72 hours leave little doubt the cucks will slither off to their communist masters and take up the hammer (and sickle). Rubio and Romney all but endorsed Antifa. I look forward to National Review's issue devoted to the conservative case against the Declaration of Independence, as an aside. Conservatives really aren't serious players outside the news/entertainment complex now. What replaces them will start to emerge in Republican primaries in 2018. If any win, expect those senators and/or congressmen to get the same reception as Trump.

Blogger James Dixon August 18, 2017 8:37 AM  

> Small town America looks best to me, but there's not much of it left now and moving into it at this point still makes you an outsider

There are plenty of small towns out there. There's also a fair amount of relatively cheap land. Sites like Trulia/Zillow and landandfarm.com are useful resources to find them.

Blogger Quilp August 18, 2017 8:37 AM  

ANTIFA is well funded, has a ready supply of foot soldiers now that the lonely larpers have helped give them almost mythical, nazi killer status, and they have the press. Sorry, but this is a case where the press matters. Never underestimate your enemy. ANTIFA will be branching out soon. The Muslim Brotherhood comes to mind. I'm just astounded at how so many of you fail to see how significant their recent elevation has been. What a boon: they got to fight genuine nazi's, a no lose press situation .

Blogger Robert Divinity August 18, 2017 8:47 AM  

@43:

Because Antifa consists of Hessians, it tends to melt down and run away when confronted. The death in Charlottesville will increase the price of recruitment and make it more difficult, as did the counter-attacks earlier this year. The propaganda outlets have been conflicted by how and whether to cover the funeral and earlier successful defenses. Whatever positive response they got as Nazi killers disappeared with the Red Guards tearing down monuments. Media has effect but it is considerably diminished and much is out of its control.

Anonymous simplytimothy August 18, 2017 8:47 AM  

Notice how Hildabeast and the Kenyan are reentering the public eye? I suspect a coup is in the works, that they know of it, and that they are positioning themselves to assume power.


Just a feeling.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 8:48 AM  

It's a distraction.

Yes, Trump is methodically going after the Swamp (NAFTA renegotiation began two days ago; Awan was indicted three days ago), and the Swamp is willing to whip up a civil war if it can, if they think that could stop him or slow him down.

But a war started as a distraction will be just as deadly as any other. Also, they didn't create the stresses -- the cracks in the civic nationalist fantasy -- that they're currently amplifying and exploiting. Those stresses were already there, so if they can supply enough heat, the reaction may be self-sustaining.

Blogger VD August 18, 2017 8:51 AM  

I'm just astounded at how so many of you fail to see how significant their recent elevation has been.

Always nice to hear from the Gammas. They have the amazing ability to uniquely perceive what everyone already knows.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 8:51 AM  

Notice how Hildabeast and the Kenyan are reentering the public eye?

By spending a lot of time outside the borders of the US, beyond the jurisdiction of federal law enforcement? Yes, we've noticed that too.

Anonymous 0007 August 18, 2017 8:52 AM  

Interesting that when I tried to access the SBPDL website yesterday, I immediately get a google sign-in or register page. SBPDL is mostly concerned with showing the reality of black-run cities and is hosted on/by blogspot which suddenly insists on capitalizing itself. Wonder how soon they'll get to you, Vox.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 8:56 AM  

Timing-wise, all this now still looks like street theater because the DJIA is still a hydrogen balloon, bumping along a very, very high ceiling. Real Bad Stuff simply doesn't happen on a widespread scale at social mood highs.

I think Prechter will be proved right when this does finally roll over. Theoretically, the Next Big Wave is a huge 4th Wave, parallel to the 2nd wave that occurred (on the London Stock Exchange) from 1720 to 1784.

4th waves of one lesser degree tend to presage conditions of the ensuing larger degree "correction." This would mean that the last 4th wave period would be the small-scale model for what's coming.

Here's the rub: Does that mean the 4th wave that occurred 1964-1974 (to 1982 if you include the early back-and-fill of the evolving next wave up) is the teaser (riots in cities, energy crisis, emergence of eco-zealotry, etc.) or is that 18 year period actually TWO degrees of trend smaller, and the "one degree smaller" 4th wave that applies is the one from 1929 to 1932 (to the early 1940's if you include the early back-and-fill of the evolving next big wave up?)

tl;dr Is the path ahead a bigger version of the 60's/70's (riots, high crime, racial strife), a bigger version of the Great Depression & World War II or a bigger version encompassing BOTH?

My guess: Both, at various times, starting first with the riots-cities-burning sentiment, and a few decades down the road, moving to the world war template.

There is no such thing as a set-and-forget approach to surviving such different waves of change, as I see it.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 18, 2017 8:59 AM  

Sorry, but this is a case where the press matters.

The vaguely gleeful "sorry" opener is an almost infallible gamma-tell.

PA

Blogger Ron August 18, 2017 9:01 AM  

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Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales August 18, 2017 9:07 AM  

"Get off my lawn & take your mates body with you"

Truly, you aren't American, because no one here uses 'mate' unironically as synonym for friend or buddy or pal or without referring to animals or without using it as a suffix in a compound word (like in roommate, or bunk-mate, or... now that I think about it, those are probably it).

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 18, 2017 9:09 AM  

ANTIFA is well funded, has a ready supply of foot soldiers now that the lonely larpers have helped give them almost mythical, nazi killer status, and they have the press.

Antifa/Alt-Left has always been well-funded, has always had a ready supply of "foot soldiers", and the MSM has always been ready to provide a nuanced taxonomy of the Left and not the Right. The Left's (including the MSM's) 'timetable' has simply shifted forward.

Nothing at all is changed except, perhaps, the speed with which things are going to happen.

lonely larpers

Polly want a cracker?


Anonymous MemeX August 18, 2017 9:15 AM  

"All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war." -- Billy Beck, August 2009

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 9:25 AM  

@54 They're well-funded because the whole thing is one big game.

Crony-capitalist oligarchs in NYC law, Madison Avenue marketing & PR, K-street lobbying, etc. all bought off the entire US federal government decades ago.

Who writes the 5,000 page "laws" passed by Congress before copies have even been distributed to each Rep?
For whom do Federal regulators in the bureaucracy go to work, getting corner-office jobs when they "retire," but the very corporations they "regulated" previously.
Who actually, legally owns the Federal Reserve?

Who also owns the six dominant "news agencies" that account for 99.9% of "The News?"

Everyone works for The Company, lives in Company-owned homes (got a mortgage?), shops at Company-owned stores, gets medical treatment at the Company Hospital and owes their soul to the Company at every level.

It's Biblical.

The illusion is that it's permanent, and that consent is a manufactured good, just like all the other Company Products.

Blogger pyrrhus August 18, 2017 9:29 AM  

@50 DC, the next wave down will be correcting the last 250 years up, as I understand it, with Prechter's target in the low hundreds. The debt pyramid will collapse, and there will be massive worldwide defaults. It will also, IMO, be correcting the increase in population from about 1 billion to 8 billion.....The carnage will be unimaginable....

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 18, 2017 9:31 AM  

It's Biblical.

It's that.

As an aside, it's not insignificant that Marxian thought has always been bankrolled by Capitalism.

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Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 9:42 AM  

There are plenty of small towns out there.

And you only need one. Time is getting short for shopping around, though.

People leave you alone, which in some rural areas is a very good thing.

That's how it is where I live, during normal times. Not a lot of interaction on the surface, just a bunch of people who get along fine but mostly stay out of each others' business, and that's how we like it. That changes pretty quickly in a time of need, though. A farmer gets run over by a tractor, and all his neighbors come around to finish his harvesting. Most of us are related to each other -- my dad has an incredible memory for family connections, so I'm always finding out that a neighbor is a fifth cousin or something -- and those who aren't related at all are appreciated for bringing something a little different, the way Vox describes being treated in Italy.

But none of that is something you can establish last-minute, so if that's your plan, better get on it.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 9:48 AM  

I hear Prepper stuff....ME, ME, ME....ME survival (with maybe my family) is what's important. Western Civilization, not mentioned

True, but I wonder if the medieval monks realized they were preserving civilization, or if they were just staying fed and safe and copying that next page because that's what Brother James said to do.

When will the new books come out...."War Lording 110,"

Well, what aspiring warlord is gonna share all his secrets? There will be only so many tribes to warlord over, after all!

Blogger tuberman August 18, 2017 9:56 AM  

Yeah, lots of stuff about history on here and ideas for preserving even Southern History. Lee and his head general were remarkable leaders, who used trench warfare 50 years ahead of WWI, and to excellent effect.

I grew up with a bunch of Southern boys from Arkansas, Kentucky, and Texas, and played baseball and had adventures with them.

I hear Prepper stuff....ME, ME, ME....ME survival (with maybe my family) is what's important. Western Civilization, not mentioned, Christianity, well one person did mention prayers. I know, first one needs to SURVIVE. Hey, that was exactly what the Whole Earth Catalog told everyone in the 1970's.

Oh, FUD...Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. So, who of you really cares about anything?

When will the new books come out...."War Lording 110," or "Being Genghis Khan: Getting All Your Betas to Drive Women to Your Bed." "Forget Civilization: Thriving in the Wonderful Brutal Times," should work, although distribution may be a problem.

Cail, I had to re do this as a couple people actually mentioned the Bible while I was typing the first time. Actually, Sun Tzu will do for "War Lording 110," but VD's recommended books would update thing more.

I'm being a bit silly, but the blog post here was about HISTORY, and so many detoured comments.

Anonymous praetorian August 18, 2017 9:58 AM  

One is to proactively break up the United States and implement population transfers, the other is to restore the pre-1965 population demographics through mass repatriations.

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Blogger tuberman August 18, 2017 10:02 AM  

I suppose I took the Civil War 2.0, as it was from Pat as a cold war, and a history lessen, perhaps Buchanan was talking about selfish survival in a hot war. NAW!

Anonymous Jones August 18, 2017 10:13 AM  

Wow as a foreigner I mostly feel sorry for you Yanks for having more of your heroes trashed this way. My homeboys were Kosciuszko and Pulaski. I hope your Trotskyite friends leave them alone.

Blogger John Williams August 18, 2017 10:14 AM  

The #AltLefts fervor to tear down statues of Lee is the same as their fervor to tear down the 10 Commandments from courthouses & remove nativity scenes from parks.

Blogger de ti August 18, 2017 10:30 AM  

Just my little 2 cents here..

I don't think war can be avoided now. It's now too late, because the left a long time ago decided the time for talking was over. And many on the right are finding themselves pushed into the same conclusion. Many on the right have no choice but to stop talking and start acting. DO I like or condone this? No. But I don't think it can be stopped or avoided at this late date.

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 10:35 AM  

"I hear Prepper stuff....ME, ME, ME....ME survival (with maybe my family) is what's important. Western Civilization, not mentioned, Christianity, well one person did mention prayers. I know, first one needs to SURVIVE. Hey, that was exactly what the Whole Earth Catalog told everyone in the 1970's."

I was just stating a starting point for someone who needed some better info than he had.

I'm sorry that I didn't write a book for you that would cover every single topic in detail.

"I'm being a bit silly, but the blog post here was about HISTORY, and so many detoured comments."

Are you a mod? And I thought the post was on Civil War 2.0?


Anonymous Athor Pel August 18, 2017 10:41 AM  

"58. Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 18, 2017 9:31 AM ...
As an aside, it's not insignificant that Marxian thought has always been bankrolled by Capitalism."



Nope, not gonna get away with that whopper.

Marxian thought is bankrolled by the central bankers, the money men, the usurers.

I bring this to your attention for two reasons. One being pure factual correctness, two being that you were ascribing support for Marxist thought to an idea. Much like having a war on terrorism, it's a method not a person or a people.

People do things, people are the actors in the world. Ideas are tools, they just sit there until someone picks them up and uses them. Capitalism is an idea.

Anonymous BBGKB August 18, 2017 10:49 AM  

One side has a trillion rounds of ammo and has 5 gallon buckets of rice/beans stored

The other side doesn't know which bath room to use ,has poor MARXmanship, and is reviving disease pathways not seen in decades like Tuberculosis of the penis (mainly seen before in Jews)(http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/another-tb-scare-in-san-francisco/

ot:
Mom of cat lady killed when CRTL-ALT-Left Antifa smashed car windows says xhe isn't talking to TRUMP after what he said, but said Justin Bieber can give xer a call. #Cville

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/mother-woman-killed-charlottesville-no-interest-speaking-trump-114005769--abc-news-topstories.html

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 18, 2017 11:04 AM  

Bankrolled by Capitalists, then, Athor, if it soothes.

Not the object of apprehension I was after, however; which, while not directly referenced, can be found in my original comment's form.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 18, 2017 11:14 AM  

"Which side are you on?" asks Paddy Tarleton.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CLuPE49zk2w

Blogger Flair1239 August 18, 2017 11:15 AM  

You will never be able to make that separation without violence.

Use the American Indian scenario from the 1800s. Forced migration is just war under a different name.

My point is, that your solution is not much of an improvement over where we are headed anyway. The destination being some form of "hot" civil war, with the lines eventually devolving to ethnicity.

The only way I see through this, an immigration freeze, followed by full freedom of association. This would allow people to comfortably self segregate if that is their will. It would also require a dramatic revamping (preferably a elimination) of the welfare state.

All these scenarios require complicated political maneuverings, clear heads, and lots of good will. Which is the same as saying "Highly Unlikely".

Blogger Flair1239 August 18, 2017 11:17 AM  

Not a bad idea. I think I will as well. Grand Daughter has her 5th birthday. Good as time as any to cool out.

Anonymous BBGKB August 18, 2017 11:28 AM  

including our policy against discrimination of any kind—this includes banning people from the app." Fight discrimination with... Discrimination!

Watch Uber bann people taking rides to TRUMP rallies like Airbnb did at Cville, he is still having them.

Here's a plan to have enough "food" for one person for one year, a gun and a few odds and sods for $1,000

Also think of getting the survival food you wouldn't want to survive on for your in-laws. What do you mean freeze dried ice cream kemosabe? I could have sworn you made fun of our packed pantry.

To be fair to Lord Bison his plan is 1500k calories and sitting out the nonsense on junk land.

Junk land you have planted edible plants on.

Don't bother much with SurvivalBlog. It lost its value long ago.

It has archived data going back to 2005, and if you don't want to download it yourself you can pay $10 for a CD with it on. That nice guy SC contributes things from time to time.

Stay away from FerFal. He's a fool and he thinks himself an expert on all things.

Selco saw war against whites vs moslems, Ferfal saw how Hispanic south Americans act in a crisis. Are there more moslems or wetbacks in your backyard?

"I fought the law and the law won," is axiomatic. The "law" is whatever ordering principle "the people

I didn't fight the law I gave them some nice hemlock wine.

I hear Prepper stuff....ME, ME, ME....ME survival (with maybe my family) is what's important.

We leave the talking about how to burn down DieVerse Cities to Matt Bracken most people would get themselves arrested doing so.

You will never be able to make that separation without violence.

Someones got to pay for my 15 crackbabies. I cant find the original where she says it just follow up stories jootoobe must have taken it down!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0

Anonymous Jack Amok August 18, 2017 11:36 AM  

I'm not sure how long it will take for normal people to realize this isn't about Confederate statues or racism. It's about destroying everything that represents civilization,

It's easy to see the truth of that. A century and a half ago, half a million Americans died fighting each other. We might argue about the real causes of that war, but if someone wants to claim it was about slavery and therefore the Confederate flag was a hateful symbol and all its monuments should be torn down, then you'd have to say the other flag was the banner med died under to end slavery and ought to be honored.

But of course at the same time Leftists are on a rampage against anything to do with the Stars and Bars, they're also insisting the Stars and Stripes is a hateful symbol of racism too.

There's nothing coherent about their argument, except the desire to erase history and destroy heritage.

But of course there's nothing coherent about that either, since attacking all these symbols will destroy Civic Nationalism and leave us with... just plain nationalism.

And war.

Anonymous Taignobias August 18, 2017 11:36 AM  

I've always admired General Lee and General Jackson, not necessarily for their military exploits (which are worthy of admiration) but for who these men were. Lee was the epitome of a Southern Gentleman - received not a single demerit at West Point, patriotic to his State and his Nation (respectively), deeply contemplative, and by all accounts very genial.

"Stonewall" was the embodiment of what the Romans call "virtus" - temperate in his emotions and with his habits, prudent in all things, just and charitable to his allies and enemies alike, and so courageous as to be known as "Stonewall". A devout man, Stonewall held services for his men and prayed both publicly and privately up unto his death.

These are men worthy of our admiration, and I strongly suspect this is the primary reason they are despised.

Blogger James Dixon August 18, 2017 11:40 AM  

> ...because the DJIA is still a hydrogen balloon, bumping along a very, very high ceiling.

A bit of air was let out of that balloon yesterday. Right now the markets are mixed, but the Dow is down a fraction. The smaller cap stocks have been in a fairly slow but consistent sell off for about three weeks now.

Is this the beginning of a downturn? Who knows. As I said on my disclaimer on Gab, my name is James, not Jeane.

Blogger tuberman August 18, 2017 11:40 AM  

Athor Pel wrote:"58. Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 18, 2017 9:31 AM ...

As an aside, it's not insignificant that Marxian thought has always been bankrolled by Capitalism."


Nope, not gonna get away with that whopper.

Marxian thought is bankrolled by the central bankers, the money men, the usurers.

I bring this to your attention for two reasons. One being pure factual correctness, two being that you were ascribing support for Marxist thought to an idea. Much like having a war on terrorism, it's a method not a person or a people.

People do things, people are the actors in the world. Ideas are tools, they just sit there until someone picks them up and uses them. Capitalism is an idea.



Correct, central bank capitalism is PARASITE capitalism, and is not the same as Main Street Capitalism. All the NWO is parasite capitalism, sucking the blood of the civil economy. Wall Street has used this to place money and power into the hands of a few NWO corporations, like Apple,Facebook, and Google, who help them play by the Globalist rules.

Blogger Francis The Pope August 18, 2017 11:49 AM  

On the issue of breaking up the USA that some have raised here, how can it be broken up ? The USSR had fairly distinct states to break up into, with Russia being the core state, so it could take ownership of all the nuclear weapons. The USA has no core state as the USSR had Russia, if it was broken it would be worse than the India partition, a lot of the cities that exist in red states are liberal bastions, and I assume there are still significant right leaning populations in liberal states. And who would get the nuclear weapons ?

Blogger James Dixon August 18, 2017 11:50 AM  

> I don't think war can be avoided now.

The alt-left is firmly in control of the Democratic party, and they're not leaving many options open to anyone to the right of Mao, so I'd say you're correct.

> It would also require a dramatic revamping (preferably a elimination) of the welfare state.

That's going to happen. You can only pay with money you don't have for so long. Social Security and Medicare will be on the chopping block too. Really, once the boomers are gone who will need them? No one born after 1960 with a brain ever expects to collect Social Security or be covered by Medicare.

Blogger James Dixon August 18, 2017 11:51 AM  

> And who would get the nuclear weapons ?

Whoever can get to them first and hold them. Probably the local state government.

Blogger tuberman August 18, 2017 12:02 PM  

"We leave the talking about how to burn down DieVerse Cities to Matt Bracken most people would get themselves arrested doing so."

Mere pawns and sub-pawns, so where will all the billionaire elites be hiding out when this breaks? You know, those guys who hold the sub-pawns neck to the board? Most will not be in those cities, they are better preppers than you.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 18, 2017 12:18 PM  

On the issue of breaking up the USA that some have raised here, how can it be broken up ?

Messily. There are fuzzy borders between the nations, and maybe it can go smoothly where those match up to state borders. Some parts have enough of an identity that they may break away cleanly: the South, Texas, Hawaii, maybe some of the original colonies. But many other states, as far as I know, exist as states because being a state was seen as beneficial, so someone drew borders around enough people to make a territory and then a state, and poof, a State.

I've lived in Illinois all my life, and I can't tell you what's on the state flag. Most people couldn't. I know the state motto because it was on the license plates for years. Some of the state's borders are large rivers, so that just made sense, but how did that straight line between Illinois and Indiana get there? I have no idea. My point being, there is very little state identity, and different parts of the state have more in common with neighbors across the border. Southern Illinois is much more like Kentucky and Missouri than Chicago, for instance. So while the state government will surely try to hold its territory together, that's not where the ethnic and cultural forces will push things.

Depends a lot on whether/how much the cities burn, I think.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 18, 2017 12:26 PM  

tuberman wrote:where will all the billionaire elites be hiding out when this breaks?
Paraguay
For a paltry couple of million, you can buy tens or hundreds of thousands of acres of working cattle ranch. For minimal ongoing expense you can hire an army, and there is no extradition to the US.
That's where the Bush clan, at the least, have their redoubt.

Blogger Elder Son August 18, 2017 12:33 PM  

If you think the press is your enemy now, wait until if/when the festivities start.

Every atrocity ever committed by the most ruthless despots will be laid at you feet, plus. They will attempt to make them look like pikers compared to you. And your "atrocities" will be displayed in living colors throughout the teevee, web, and radio. Sarin gas is always a good one. Dial Emergency 9-1-1 is always good.

Free speech and the press have no standing when it is the enemy truth. Only the devil will proclaim it holy writ. Remember, they are not selling the truth, but your demise, through lies, and words of war.

Keep that in mind, and don't let your conscience bother you, if/when it starts.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 18, 2017 1:03 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:The major problem areas are the cities with 500k and up populations in the middle of red states. Relocating those people is going to get messy.
St. Louis is surrounded by a sea of red and has a huge problem population, as does Chimpcongo.  This population has literally nowhere to go; nobody wants them, and the diasporae already shipped out to places like Dubuque on Section Ape vouchers are going to be the first and easiest targets of the shooting war.  What's the point of trying to make them go somewhere?  They'll just be gone.

Eliminating the vote-for-a-living population and enabling a suburban lifestyle will revitalize the cities and make them far more conservative.  Think Detroit circa 1915.

Anonymous SigOther August 18, 2017 1:14 PM  

Yeah, they show up. The problem is their inability to self police; they have now repeatedly shown they can't keep some idiot (::cough Fed cough) from their group from showing up in a German clown outfit. "Big tent" does not extend to r-tards who try to burn the tent down. I see no problem with letting anyone who is kinda sorta on our side who isn't actively against American interests show up (free speech and all; we don't have to agree with them to stand next to them in a public park), but the Larper-sexuals should do so as individuals (WITHOUT THE STUPID COSTUME), not as a group.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 18, 2017 1:17 PM  

@14

"The best we can hope for now is that Trump can pull a Gorbachev and break up the United States relatively peacefully."

Minor nit... your premise is wrong.

Gorbechev did NOT break up the Soviet Union. He woke up one morning while on vacation at a Black Sea resort to find out that Yeltsin (President of Russia) had pulled Russia out of the Soviet Union.

Without Russia and Moscow, the rest of the Soviet Union has NO reason to exist... because the entire rest of the Soviet Union was Communist conquests (military, as for example, the Baltic States, or political, such as many of the the -stans.)

Yeltsin was an absolute genius in realizing that he could free Russia and destroy the Communist rule by simply letting go of the empire that the Commies built.

Russians were ecstatic. I was dating a girl from Saint Petersburg in the mid 90's... she gave me a T-shirt with a Russian flag on it, with the words (in Russian) "Russia lives."

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 1:25 PM  

Whatever happens, it won't be a Chose Path. No one gets to choose for the mob. The best we can hope for is to quietly sidle our way to the side of the room, to be away from the stampede when panic hits. And hit it will.

James, the SPX shows two equal legs down right now, which is (in Elliott terms) either A-B-C of a completed correction, the first ABC of a more complex correction, or 1-2-i of an evolving hard decline, possibly an initial five wave (thus impulsive) move.

No way to know in advance, of course. Crystal balls don't exist.

IMO (o p i n i o n), as long as bonds can't make a run for zero yields again, stocks are in the final state of this incredibly long, pathological rally. Once interest rates begin to climb in earnest, every other domino will begin to fall anyway. Corporations already can't roll over their debts at lower rates. Neither can Uncle Sammy.

We're in all likelihood in the final weeks, months (year?!) of the Fed Gov behaving like it can spend without limit or the need to tax.

In the 18th century it was "No taxation without representation."
What if in the 21st it's something like, "No (government) spending without taxation?"

Maybe the MEN are finally going to cut up Aunt Sammie's credit card.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 18, 2017 1:35 PM  

@75 Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0#t=49

Francis The Pope wrote:who would get the nuclear weapons ?
Well, the war would be pretty short if San Francisco, Atlanta, and the Bos-Wash corridor got a sampling of them right after the shooting started.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 18, 2017 1:36 PM  

Francis The Pope wrote:...if it was broken it would be worse than...

... a lot of historical happenings. No doubt. This will be ugly beyond belief. And that's why what has been done in the last 50+ years is so very evil. I've learned a lot about the face of evil recently.

Anonymous Godfrey August 18, 2017 1:41 PM  

Besides the snowflakes and the Kapos (corporate paid Anti-fa goons), who will show up to fight and die for the crony billionaire Globalists?

Blogger JimR August 18, 2017 1:46 PM  

@33

"FerFal's critique of the Mel Tappan theory (living in isolation, surrounded by barbed wire and--if possible--claymore mines)"

Except that wasn't his plan at all (at least, by the time he'd written Tappan on survival) He advocated moving to a small town, less than 10K pop, preferably about 5K, getting to know all your neighbors, and stocking about 1000lbs of long term storage wheat to barter with.

Blogger FALPhil August 18, 2017 3:00 PM  

@81 Depends a lot on whether/how much the cities burn, I think.

Possibly, but be open minded enough to think past the binary model. It could break up along multiple lines, with the coasts potentially being two different polities. And then, the Southwest and Intermountain West don't really have much in common with the Southeast, and the Upper Midwest could end up being the Ukraine of North America.

Regardless, your point about cities bears serious consideration, because that is where the most resistance will come from, as they have the most to lose in such a scenario.

Blogger FALPhil August 18, 2017 3:01 PM  

Sorry, I meant to reference Cail's post at @83.

Blogger Elder Son August 18, 2017 3:15 PM  

@92 Fence sitters will be pushed to one side or the other.

Blogger Elder Son August 18, 2017 3:22 PM  

(free speech and all; we don't have to agree with them to stand next to them in a public park)

Reminds me of this oft-repeated dumb-assery: I MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT YOU SAY, BUT I'LL GIVE MY LIFE FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!

Because, damn-it: If I'm not willing to give my life for their right to be a dumb-ass, how can I expect them to give their life for the truth!

Blogger Robert August 18, 2017 3:47 PM  

Why don't all the blacks and liberals who have the same names as the Confederate and other "oppressors" just drop those names, if they are so bad? They're walking microaggressions!
So no more Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson-Lee (a double!) Samuel L. Jackson, Harold Washington, etc. ad infinitum. No. It will be an offense against public safety to go around appropriating white men's names. Lincoln, Jefferson, Grant and Franklin are next.

Anonymous BBGKB August 18, 2017 4:17 PM  

That works for those who wife would never leave the city and the malls

How to get your faggot boyfriend to be ok with an earth sheltered greenhouse:
1.Go on vacation

Interesting that when I tried to access the SBPDL website yesterday, I immediately get a google sign-in or register page. SBPDL

That's one of the easy to redpill people sites

Whatever happens, it won't be a Chose Path. No one gets to choose for the mob. The best we can hope for is to quietly sidle our way to the side of the room, to be away from the stampede when panic hits.

It wont be a chose path but you can predict "LINES OF DRIFT"

Maybe the MEN are finally going to cut up Aunt Sammie's credit card.

Cut up Latrina's 21 crackbabies welfare card first. India just had 30 babies die because a hospital couldn't pay the O2 bill. Coming to a DieVerse City with a burning interstate bridge near you.
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/k-selection-can-look-awful-indian-baby-deaths/
2.Have relative watch the house
3.Earth sheltered green house is there when you get back.

cities bears serious consideration, because that is where the most resistance will come from, as they have the most to lose in such a scenario

Without electricity the FREE STUFF ARMY will destroy DieVerse Cities for us!!!!

Anonymous BBGKB August 18, 2017 4:19 PM  

Somehow this got lost

2.Have relative watch the house
3.Earth sheltered green house is there when you get back

Blogger juju2434 August 18, 2017 4:20 PM  

No matter who says what, something this way comes, and it's going to be bloody. I AM locked and Loaded and will remain that way till further notice.

Blogger Elder Son August 18, 2017 4:25 PM  

Meanwhile, the F - B - I saved us again:

Parents Catch FBI in Plot to Force Mentally Ill Son to Be a Right Wing Terrorist.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 18, 2017 5:39 PM  

I think what you need is a home in a neighborhood where everyone CAN run off-grid but usually runs on-grid. A tall order indeed. If you're the only one who can run off-grid, you'll eventually live in a ghost town if there's prolonged difficulty.

A correspondent of mine once opined that the ultimate bug-out location would be an RV park with adjacent lake and arable land. I added the notion of digging in a shipping container under every concrete RV pad.

And remote control GE miniguns. Can't have a bug out location without 'em. No terminators, though. Untrustworthy buggers, prone to Chinese hackers.

In the real world, it was quite disappointing to find out that in my area, the Barbarians really ARE inside the gates. Two streets over lives (with his GF and their kids) a man who is/was a high-ranking officer in Chicago's Latin Kings Street Gang.

Even the bad guys commute.

Blogger EasyCompany August 18, 2017 5:41 PM  

@93.JimR

That was Bruce Clayton.

But Tappan was pretty close to that.

Blogger Kona Commuter August 18, 2017 7:43 PM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:"Get off my lawn & take your mates body with you"

Truly, you aren't American, because no one here uses 'mate' unironically as synonym for friend or buddy or pal or without referring to animals or without using it as a suffix in a compound word (like in roommate, or bunk-mate, or... now that I think about it, those are probably it).


You caught me out. I hope I'm still allowed to contribute :-P

We call everyone "mate".

Why am I concerned about the happenings in the US?

1) Many online "friendships"
2) My countries whole defence strategy is "America comes to our rescue". It's a retarded strategy that failed us last time when it was "The entire weight of the British Empire comes to our rescue"
3) The "freedoms" Americans enjoy, some of those filter down. 1A - many of my countrymen seem to think we have that when in fact we have NO rights to freedom of speech. The authorities don't Police it but they could if they so chose to
4) Who gets your nukes?
5) The Altleft in the US have emboldened the crazies in my country. They're currently trying to demonise our national day.
6) My nations politicians are retarded and like to voice their opinions on US domestic politics. Trump holds grudges (rightly or wrongly). Having political leaders snub him is dumb
7) Who gets the nukes? Will the religious arm of the AltLeft get their hands on one?
8) Who is going to maintain your nuclear reactors if things go hot?
9) If the US does enter CIVWAR2 who will fill the power vacuum on the world stage? I can think of a large Muslim nation near my country that hates us with a passion.
10) Last time I was able to reliably check my country had enough munitions to go full tilt in a war for 5 hours. After that we're hoping Amazon shipping comes through.

Anonymous MeSo August 18, 2017 8:17 PM  

One is to proactively break up the United States and implement population transfers

Have long (time) thought this is actually one of their goals. They desire it. Only a SuperPower could resist Globalism.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat August 18, 2017 9:35 PM  

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Blogger anon August 18, 2017 10:03 PM  

YES iM GLAD SOMEONE ELSE INTELIGENT GETS WARS INEVITABLE, THIS IDEA THAT WHITE MAN HAS NO SURVIVAL INSTINCT BECAUSE SOMETHING SOMETHING PURITANS IS JUST THE DEMOGRAPHIC VERSION OF ITS DIFFERENT THIS TIME. iTS NOT TULIP BULBS ARE NOT WORTH MANSIONS AND MAKING OTHERS FEEL BETTER ARE NOT WORTH WHITE NATIONS AND PEOPLES DESTRUCTION. lEFTISM FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ACTUAL COMMUNISTS IS SOMETHING THEY DO BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN AFFORD IT BECAUSE FIAT DEBT TELLS THEM IT COSTS THEM NOTHING AND AMERICA WAS A HUGE CONTINENT. tHAT'S ABOUT TO CHANGE JUST AS THE NIGGERS AND CO GET WAY TO UPPITY FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. BUT WAR WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO AVOID WAR IS ALSO SO HORRIBLE TO CONTEMPLATE LIKE THE DEBTS WE WOULD RATHER NOT FACE IT.iN A WAY IT MIGHT BE FOR THE BEST WAR IS GOOD FOR SOME THINGS IT MAKES MEN OUT OF BOYS IT DOESNT KILL AND GOD KNOWS THESE LAST SEVEN GENERATIONS EXCEED AT FAGGOTRY LIKE NOTHING IN HISTORY.ALSO A CERTAIN DEBT NEEDS TO BE PAID IN LIBERAL BLOOD, THEY HAVE MURDERED MILLIONS AND MADE EVERYONE MISERABLE FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS THEY NEED TO SUFFER HORRIBLY THEN DIE AND THEIR CHILDREN TOO TO KILL OF THEIR GENES. tHIS WILL CERTAINLY HAPPEN.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 19, 2017 2:14 AM  

Sorry guys, you know I'm usually up for belittling, mocking and embarrassing morons, but I really can't get through the WALL O' TEXT. My brain keeps telling me not to bother, there's nothing there. I can't force myself to read it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 19, 2017 2:15 AM  

excuse me, that should be "WALL O' RUN-ON TEXT WITHOUT PUNCUTATION OR DISCERNABLE SENTENCES"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 19, 2017 2:17 AM  

It's like an open sewer of sentence fragments, self-hatred, and stupidity.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 19, 2017 2:25 AM  

That feels better.

Blogger DonReynolds August 20, 2017 2:09 AM  

Here is a suitable compromise.
If the Leftist Liberals are going to pull down Confederate statues, monuments, and memorials, PLEASE DO SO in states that NEVER joined the Confederate States of America....even if they had lawful slavery until the 13th Amendment was ratified.

The ONLY Confederate art should be in those states that were actually part of the Confederacy.

Those Yankee states that somehow ended up with the wrong art can just ship them all to the Confederate state of your choice...or the highest bidder, as the law provides.

If the Yankees in Vermont, or Massachusetts, or Wisconsin are unhappy about our statues.... vacation elsewhere. YOU have no right to dictate to 11 states what public art is permitted or where it will be displayed.

Those Carpetbaggers who are so "offended" by Confederate art and iconography, waste no time returning to the frozen North. WE will call ahead and tell your relatives you are coming home.

WE are not changing to suit you either.

Blogger DonReynolds August 20, 2017 2:34 AM  

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Blogger DonReynolds August 20, 2017 2:44 AM  

@78 Jack Amok
"....but if someone wants to claim it was about slavery and therefore the Confederate flag was a hateful symbol and all its monuments should be torn down, then you'd have to say the other flag was the banner med died under to end slavery and ought to be honored."

OR....you could say that slavery existed under the stars and stripes, from 1783 until 1865 (what Lincoln called four score and seven years ago). Compare that to the life of the Confederacy, under the stars and bars, which only had slavery for four of those same exact years.

While you are at it, you might cook up a reason why Union soldiers from Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and the District of Columbia, marched into the South to "end slavery", while it continued lawfully in their own home state. Since there were four states where slavery was lawful, but never joined the Confederacy, it makes it difficult to make the claim that the war was fought only, or mainly, or mostly over slavery. Some of the states did not end lawful slavery....outside the Confederacy....until after the war was over, with the ratification of the 13th amendment.

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