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Thursday, August 17, 2017

Irony

To be a National Socialist in the West today, you have to be so mentally retarded that Hitler would have euthanized you under the Lebensunwertes Leben principle.

That, my friends, is irony.


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115 Comments:

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 8:01 AM  

Steve Bannon agrees, see zerohedge

OpenID archerfisher21 August 17, 2017 8:08 AM  

Hmm. Going by the pictures the mainstream media was showing of Chancellorsville, the people dressed as neo nazis or kkk was probably 5% at most. Real question is, were they actual believers? Ugh. Idiots who think they are being edgy? Paid workers off craigslist hired by leftists?


Oh, on another note... you know how there's a well known meme about white tears? Well, black tears are joyful to see too. There's an article trying to shame a fox news host after Trump said both sides were responsible for violence--and the picture shows a white woman fox host, smirking like a winner, and with a crying black person on each side. It must become a meme, it's too priceless after years of "white tears are delicious.". News article is titled something like "fox news guests weep over trump"

http://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_629,w_1119,x_47,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1502899531/F_F_lm5uq1

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 8:10 AM  

This is a hilariously terrible meme.

If your goal is to tell NatSoc's that the whole geddup doesn't work and looks bad, then make fun of their looks relentlessly.

This whole "NatSoc is Leftist" and "Fake Right" are counter-productive because to the common man, NatSoc is obviously Rightist (despite whatever reality is).

Having LARPers in NatSoc uniforms can be useful to our ends. If we have a large crowd of respectable men with a small contingent dressed like lunatics (which will always occur), the media will focus on the loons, but their lie of "Evi Neo-Nazi White Supremacist" will fail when a normie sees the actual crowd. We would never have to say "we are not Nazis" because the media has made it a meaningless word and will continue to do so.

Blogger Lazarus August 17, 2017 8:15 AM  

Sorta Fan wrote:, the media will focus on the loons, but their lie of "Evi Neo-Nazi White Supremacist" will fail when a normie sees the actual crowd.

And when and where, pray tell, will the normies see the actual crowd?

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 8:18 AM  

Lazarus,

The internet and the news media (though in heavily edited vidoes), and they will see it sooner or later, depending on many factors.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) August 17, 2017 8:24 AM  

Glorious meme

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 8:29 AM  

Nazis when you lost Steve Bannon you have lost. In the zerohedge piece he even sides with the media hysteria and says he wants to crush you.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) August 17, 2017 8:29 AM  

This is a hilariously terrible meme.

Given your reaction, it looks like this meme hit the target.

Anonymous Ck August 17, 2017 8:30 AM  

When wad the last time you heard that most wars are caused because of religion?

The religious war meme used to be thrown around constantly. Now there are enough people that know the truth they call out anyone trying to claim religion caused most wars in history.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 17, 2017 8:31 AM  

Vox is really determined to portray any right wing public demonstration as a gathering of da ebil not-sees, da KKK, and muh white supreemists, isn't he? Hmm, where have I seen that false meme before? Oh, that's right... the legacy media, the Left, and the cucks. Huh.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 17, 2017 8:33 AM  

So let me get this straight.

If Soros, the CIA, whoever, organizes from scratch a KKK/Neo-Nazi "march" complete with Hollywood Wardrobe straight out of a Tom Cruise movie, and if ABCNNBCBS run 29/9 coverage of video that appears to be little more than colorized newsreels from 1937, then the UniParty will be returned to power as usual in 2018, Trump replaced by either a Bush-clone RINO or Maxine "squirrel-turd-nutty" Waters or Weekend At Bernie's Mummified Corpse in 2020, and all our 10 year old daughters will be getting groomed by Pakistanis or ogled by bearded trannies in their YMCA locker room?

Uh-uh.

The mood governs what people see, and what they believe. The drooling Clown from AZ lives in a different world, as do all his kissing cousins in the Senate, House, and every Federal office building in the District of Criminals. They don't go to the store in Flyover country and notice 1 out of ever 3 people looks like they were dropped off from El Salvador.

They SURE AS HELL don't feel trapped between "treat groups of black teens like they're choir boys/girls" and "Holy shite, I'm about to be assaulted by a GANG!" because...I can't be labeled a racist for noticing the relative dangers.

Congressmen and their staffs are used to gerrymandering EVERYTHING. They think they can run it ALL, and that this Trump thing is just a little setback, easily and quickly remedied with the Right Optics (which are, by definition, LEFTIST.)

(Chuckle.) Nothing sets up failure like success. And they were successful for a long, long time.

Blogger James Dixon August 17, 2017 8:42 AM  

> This whole "NatSoc is Leftist" and "Fake Right" are counter-productive because to the common man, NatSoc is obviously Rightist (despite whatever reality is).

All the more reason to keep stating the truth, isn't it?

Blogger Cail Corishev August 17, 2017 8:43 AM  

the people dressed as neo nazis or kkk was probably 5% at most. Real question is, were they actual believers?

I don't think it matters. Maybe those were actors, but we do know that Nazis exist. They've been commenting here in recent days, after all. So if we could discover that those particular Nazis were actors hired off Craigslist, that wouldn't change the fact that Nazis exist, or that they're trying to claim leadership of the Alt-Right so they can turn it toward their own goals. That's an issue that has to be dealt with. Charlottesville just shined a light on it.

Also, regular people know Nazis exist. They may know there aren't very many, but they do know they're out there. So arguing that there weren't Nazis at the rally, or that there were too few to care about, just sounds evasive. Better to say, Yes they exist, but no we don't have anything to do with them, the way liberals approve of and cover for their Alt-Left terror groups.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 17, 2017 8:44 AM  

When you are tuned in to static, your analysis is noise.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 8:48 AM  

When the anti-communist league forms and it takes to the streets to confront the deep state's militia the nazi larpers will attempt to join in so they can make asses of themselves, they get beat down miserably and I mean physically.

But don't worry half of them are deep state assets to begin with and they should get some corrective therapy.

Now the question is how to keep the anti-communist league from being a deep state asset?

Blogger Desdichado August 17, 2017 8:49 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Nazis when you lost Steve Bannon you have lost. In the zerohedge piece he even sides with the media hysteria and says he wants to crush you.
This is why what's coming after Trump and Bannon will really make the Lefties scream and wail and gnash their teeth. Bannon still can't even see the obvious contradiction between 1) I fully support Israel, and 2) Ethno-nationalists are losers and clowns.

He's a sharp guy, so that particular blind spot seems odd. Unless it's a posture somehow for some tactical or strategic reason.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 17, 2017 9:00 AM  

Vox is really determined to portray any right wing public demonstration as a gathering of da ebil not-sees, da KKK, and muh white supreemists, isn't he? Hmm, where have I seen that false meme before? Oh, that's right... the legacy media, the Left, and the cucks. Huh.

He has stayed quite neutral in terms of rallies, themselves.

The eyebrow-furrowing thing would be if he were making no effort (or a counter-effort) to not purge, to the extent he is capable, LARPers -- however few there are and were -- and/or 'actual' Nazis (Neo or otherwise) from the Alt-Right as he envisions it.

Anonymous Axe Head August 17, 2017 9:01 AM  

Seems to me that if you think they are going to call you a Nazi no matter what you do you can.

A. Dress and act like a Nazi so that normies think "yep that's a Nazi" and be turned off.

B. Dress and act nothing like a Nazi so that normies think "WTF that guy isn't a Nazi, those leftists are acting like a bunch of hysterical faggots again".

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 9:02 AM  

Ain't no blind spot, Bannon has guile and that is something all the internet conservative intellectual geniuses lack , hell they disdain guile because they love trooooof. I prefer winning and being dominant and that requires in part the techniques of game not spergatoid obsession with some details that the left on purpose distorts.

My advice to the nazi, white nats or anyone who gets tagged by the media as "white soooooooopremacists" learn the phrase "Identity politics", love it and even source some leftist intellectual jibber jabber to buttress the case for identity politics. Be an actor it the political theatre of today not a prop.

Anonymous Looking Glass August 17, 2017 9:04 AM  

@16 Desdichado

Smart guys can realize points like Ethnonationalism "isn't wrong", but they can hold it out of their considerations because it's still poison right now. There's the Truth and the Possible. Those in the fray are far more worried about the Possible. It's not something to worry about right now. Bannon's job is to get Trump's Agenda put in place, the economy rolling and the Left crushed.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 17, 2017 9:04 AM  

This is a good opportunity to shill a friend of mine. Phrenology forecast episode 2: Richard Spencer.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 17, 2017 9:18 AM  

Talking Vox what he thinks is a first class opportunity to get smacked around. But go ahead. I'm bored and could use the entertainment.

Blogger Desdichado August 17, 2017 9:19 AM  

I dunno. Is it beneficial guile, or does he really struggle to let go of the civic nationalism paradigm and therefore hangs on to his cognitive dissonance?

Maybe I'm just ridiculously optimistic, but I think pointing out in a venue where it can't be ignored, edited, or spun in any fashion other than how you said it, which are certainly venues that the White House can command, that what we want for America is no different than what Israel has for the Jews... who we support by the way... is something that most Americans will nod and say, "Yeah, how about that?"

Sure, the usual suspects will shriek and moan, but they'll do that anyway. While trying to move the Overton window too fast and too soon is no doubt a mistake, I think they're also underestimating how far to the Right the Overton Window actually is, because the media, the swamp, and all of their other metrics to try and judge it, are completely wrong.

FORCE the Left to be openly anti-Semitic. MAKE them denounce the policies of Israel. HASTEN their spiraling into insignificance, so we can go back to having rational, reasonable discussions about public policy again without being drowned out by the screaming of harpies.

Blogger Johnny August 17, 2017 9:24 AM  

One way of thinking about political alignment is to drop the abstract doctrine stuff and ask instead, why are people in the movement they are in? What lures them in? On that level the Neo Nazi thing seems to be in part using the Nazi word as a convenient label for white supremacy. The other apparent reason is that because Nazism is the ultimate evil, claiming to be Nazi is a way of defying the establishment's moral norms. It is a reactionary thing.

As for what Nazi race theory actually was, I have yet to see anybody here describe it adequately, so I will lay it out.

Hitler was not all that internally consistent in his ideology. Functionally he was more of an inspired motivator than an administrator. When he was actually running Germany he did not impose all that rigid a doctrine. As long as the subordinates were on board in the big picture and did not directly challenge him, they got to do what they wanted.

What Hitler stressed the most was the Master Race approach. The German race was the best, most magnificent race and for this reason had the right and the duty to rule over the rest of the humans. Included in the Master Race were anybody who spoke German and did not have identifiable Jewish ancestors, and in a kind of general way, anybody who looked Aryan based on a visual stereotype that was more or less a Scandinavian or a northern German/Dutch look. The visual stereotype was what was used in the conquered eastern territories when they started restructuring society based on race group notions. And finally there were a few scientists around who got involved in human breeding in the same way livestock owners select the mates for their livestock.

Opposed to all this were the supreme devils in the world, the Jews, who sought to subvert the Germans and fell into using their manipulative genus to provoke lesser races (all non Jew, non German people) against the Master Race. In ability the Jews were at the least up to the German race, and perhaps in some ways even better, but too evil in intent to be worthy of leadership. Thus the ultimate goal of the Master Races was to eliminate the influence of the Jew, and as killing them was the most expedient, that is what Nazi policy became.

Anonymous Azimus August 17, 2017 9:26 AM  

Pic appears to be British military? To get actual Germans/Nazis would add some polish...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 9:31 AM  

Steve Bannon says ethnonationalism is bad but we know he does not mean Israel so no zionists need to fret, Steve Bannon loves, loves, loves Israel the Jewish state. So none of the alt-left commies better conflate Israel the Jewish state with the ethnonationalism Bannon hates.

And if the goofball white nats and others who get tagged as white sooooooooopremacists start using the terms of identity politics well then the deep state establishment will come to the rescue of America's Protected Classes and their moral right to identity politics

Blogger Desdichado August 17, 2017 9:33 AM  

@24. Not exactly. Hitler saw the British (and by extension the Americans) as closely allied biologically, culturally and ethnically to the Germans, because they were, in fact, closely allied biologically, culturally and ethnically. The Slavs were vaguely similar; they're equally white, blond, blue-eyed as the Germans, their origins were the same Indo-Germanisch origins as the Germans, but they were geographically located conveniently close to the Germans, and Stalin's support of German communists made them the enemy to be attacked; especially since the Bolshevik revolution was orchestrated by such a highly Jewish group.

The Slavs were as subhuman as the Jews, in spite of their obvious cultural, biological, and aesthetic similarities to the Germans, because they made convenient helots to his German Spartans.

Anonymous PAC August 17, 2017 9:58 AM  

National Socialism has two components: on the one hand, a Weltanschauung; on the other hand, a specific historic dispensation: a German national revolution that took place in the 1930s.

As a revolutionary movement, its time is past. No thinking German thinks otherwise. There will never be National Socialists again in a world-historical sense, just as there will never be sans-culottes again.

The question of the truth of the Weltanschauung is a different one. Can it be reconfigured under a new historic dispensation? Horst Mahler believes the truth of National Socialism survives in the historic mission of the German people, the great rival of the Jewish nation.

In any case, all of this has little to do with the United States, which is hardly a nation at all.

Anonymous Koanic August 17, 2017 10:03 AM  

Is good meme.

Fundamentally, Nazism is a mono-testicular vegetarian ideology, which explains its appeal to incel soymales. The Old Testament literally wouldn't even have allowed Hitler in the door of the temple. This is what happens when the greatest warrior nation on Earth decides to let women decide who's in charge.

Before this goes any further, is Josh aware that claiming to be the sexiest thing here is gayer than claiming to be the gayest thing here?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 17, 2017 10:14 AM  

Koanic, if he's not aware and did it on instinct, that makes him even more gay, does it not?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 17, 2017 10:39 AM  

@10 Yockey
Vox is really determined to portray any right wing public demonstration as a gathering of da ebil not-sees, da KKK, and muh white supreemists, isn't he?

No, he's not.

Blogger Othmar Regin August 17, 2017 10:43 AM  

Socialism was never the cough*Right*cough path

Anonymous AH August 17, 2017 10:45 AM  

Would be better without the IRONY at the start.

Blogger The Kurgan August 17, 2017 10:54 AM  

Shhhh. You're not tall enough for this ride.

Blogger RM Chris August 17, 2017 10:56 AM  

I could see the left using that meme.

Is mocks both Nazis and their supporters, (both of which are university hated already), and can easily fit into the universal (and idiotic) narrative that right wingers are both Nazis and stupid.

Anonymous TheHiss August 17, 2017 10:57 AM  

@25. Scottish actually.

Anonymous praetorian August 17, 2017 11:08 AM  

I'm looking forward to counter-signalling-stupid-kids week being over.

Blogger Aaron Swenson August 17, 2017 11:16 AM  

Murderers won't be prosecuted, cuz whitey...

http://www.newsweek.com/zimbabwe-president-robert-mugabe-white-farmers-651326

Blogger Flair1239 August 17, 2017 11:17 AM  

I can I can get behind an Ethnostate. But I can't get behind Supremacists. I just have met too many stupid people.

Anonymous Koanic August 17, 2017 11:21 AM  

Am I missing something or do people continually misuse the phrase "counter-signalling"?

Vox is not an uber-Nazi being understated about his swastika attire and fruit salad. He is not wearing a single grey Reichsadler on an otherwise non-descript uniform. He is being explicitly and verbosely anti-Nazi. That does not fit the definition of "counter-signalling" that Wikipedia knows.

Blogger SouthRon August 17, 2017 11:26 AM  

Koanic wrote:Before this goes any further, is Josh aware that claiming to be the sexiest thing here is gayer than claiming to be the gayest thing here?

I assumed they were one and the same and was awaiting BBGKB's appraisal of Josh. But please not too much detail, I just ate.

Anonymous Looking Glass August 17, 2017 11:31 AM  

@29 Koanic

https://kek.gg/i/4XvL8D.png

You give me a great idea. Thanks!

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Blogger dc.sunsets August 17, 2017 11:48 AM  

@38 That Newsweek story is hilarious, once you get to the comments section.

We wuz kangz meets Forest Gump's far-more-cognitively-disabled black doppelganger.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 17, 2017 11:51 AM  

I'm not a "white supremacist" either, because I've met too many whites who were anything but supreme...but then reading @38 Newsweek story comments let me know that race aside, some people are superior and others ARE inferior, at least when it comes to English composition.

The human race apparently includes some folks dumber than a dachshund. Thank Heaven the Internet now gives them ample opportunity to display their....aptitudes.

Blogger Desdichado August 17, 2017 11:53 AM  

@44: Hardly surprising. The average IQ in Zimbabwe is 66—the 5th lowest in the world.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 17, 2017 11:57 AM  

@38 That Newsweek story is hilarious, once you get to the comments section.

"All whites must DIE" Including his wife?

Talk about irony.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar August 17, 2017 11:59 AM  

Shared lol.
TYVM.

Blogger Meimou August 17, 2017 12:03 PM  

He also lumps in nazees with ethonationist,a mistake on his part, our enemies cannot be appeased and will be this as weakness.

WN is also picking up stream, he didn't make any friends.

Blogger ZhukovG August 17, 2017 12:10 PM  

Bannon is President Trump's man. President Trump is a Civic Nationalist. President Trump buys us time which we will hopefully use productively, which playing NSDAP glee club does not.

Blogger Meimou August 17, 2017 12:11 PM  

He's doing what he thinks is damage control, but all he did was annoy WNs.Right wing normies know NS is left wing and many do not believe that neo nazis and KKK members are not right wing, one person who hates Bannon will give him credit for what he said.

Anonymous BBGKB August 17, 2017 12:16 PM  

WHITE LIVES MATTER triggers leftists more than swastikas, because even they know everyone ever caught on video spraying swastikas was jewish, like the 2 lesbians whose neighbors security cam caught them burning their own house down after removing valuables.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 17, 2017 12:18 PM  

Charlottesville Was a Massive 4GW Failure

Important point:

"This brings up an important point, which is that optics are everything. I know a lot of folks in the alt-Right don’t like the term “optics” and think it is “compromise,” or even “cucking.” However, to paraphrase James Carville, there’s a term for people who don’t care about optics, which is “loser.” Frankly, people who aren’t serious about optics aren’t serious about winning. Optics determines what millions of people – the people you’re hoping to sway if you’re smart and serious – will see, regardless of whatever the MSM and leftie outlets might say. What do I mean? I mean stop waving Nazi flags around and wearing t-shirts with quotes from Adolf Hitler and doing Nazi salutes. Even if you mean it entirely ironically or non-seriously, nobody watching TV at home knows that. If you’re actually a genuine National Socialist, well, understand that you are NOT, under any conceivable circumstances, ever going to rehabilitate the image of Nazism in the United States or other Anglospheric countries. It will not happen. You can cry about it, call people “cucks” for pointing out the obvious, or whatever else. But people that we beat in a war that they declared on us first are not going to garner any sympathy outside your own circle. Very, very few people whose Grandpa Bob fought the Nazis on Omaha Beach are going to side with you or want to be associated with any movement that even has a whiff of you around. That is reality."

Blogger Meimou August 17, 2017 12:18 PM  

Name one real white supremacist.

You don't need to get behind a group that barely exist.

Blogger ZhukovG August 17, 2017 12:18 PM  

@BBGKB: Hell, even ALL LIVES MATTER sends the lefties into fits.

Blogger Johnny August 17, 2017 12:19 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:I'm not a "white supremacist" either, because I've met too many whites who were anything but supreme...

I am reminded of George Carlin's comment related to intelligence. "Just think, half of all people are below average." White people are stupid enough that we don't need to mix with even stupider people.

As far as white supremacy goes, often you have to try to be better simply to be competitive. We need to be for ourselves, but in our current world taking over other groups is primarily a liability.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 17, 2017 12:21 PM  

HULK SMASH COMMIES

Blogger sysadmn August 17, 2017 12:25 PM  

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1HCz2BiAKNk/WTQHOg3fT8I/AAAAAAAABS0/HE9BYjB11QswBJRYeMH3mKET3ccEV910ACLcB/s1600/marxhitler-1.jpg

As noted by the Social Pathologist (http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2017/06/pseudo-right.html).

Blogger dc.sunsets August 17, 2017 12:25 PM  

Is goose-stepping (i.e., LARPing 1937 Germany) supposed to be the Right-side equivalent of bare-butt, chaps-wearing, dog-collar-with-leash-attached, pink-boa-festooned gays marching down the street during Pride Week?

There's a meme for you. On the Left: Said bare-butt clown. On the Right: Neo-Nazi/KKK LARPer.

Caption: If CNN insists the guy on the right is typical of Trump supporters, then the guy on the Left is a typical Clinton/Pelosi/Lieberman/Sanders supporters.

FTR, I saw exactly THAT GUY, as described, walking down Chicago's Michigan Avenue during a Gay Pride March in 1998. My kids (all grade-school-age) got quite an education.

Anonymous BBGKB August 17, 2017 12:27 PM  

I don't think there was any actual Nazis there since someone linked an archived site from the beginning of the month of Jew Lie from Nazis saying Organizer Kessler was a jew & couldn't be trusted.

I assumed they were one and the same and was awaiting BBGKB's appraisal of Josh. But please

Josh is like Richard Spencer he does things for attention, but ends up shitting on those whose side he claims.

Anonymous Anonymous August 17, 2017 12:27 PM  

Well I have know some National Socialists and they are very nice people. National Socialism was a movement in early 20th Century Germany that addressed the problems of Germans of that place and time. Its not very relevant now.

Anonymous praetorian August 17, 2017 12:30 PM  

Am I missing something or do people continually misuse the phrase "counter-signalling"?

No you are right, I'm misusing it. I picked it up from casual online discussion but the actual definition doesn't correspond with what I mean. I'll stop using it incorrectly, thank you for pointing that out.

Blogger Nationalist Flicka August 17, 2017 12:30 PM  

I thought that was a picture from modern Brazil where they are now measuring skull shape and nose size to determine just who is disadvantaged.

Blogger Sillon Bono August 17, 2017 12:31 PM  

OT: Happening in Barcelona, blessed by the van of peace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/40966524

And better pictures and videos from the field:

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/137895020

Blogger Johnny August 17, 2017 12:33 PM  

My writing on Hitler's ideology is what he came up with when he was in jail and wrote Mein Kampf. Conceptually he framed world history as a titanic struggle between Germans and Jews. There are some around who think the jail time coincided with him developing a mental illness, paranoia. Impossible to prove, but it seems right to me. The Jew thing was his paranoid fantasy. Like or dislike the Jew, his thinking at the time was about as sensible as the Elders of Zion writing, a Russian propaganda piece.

Blogger Sam August 17, 2017 12:34 PM  

@24
It should be obvious- it has a narrative. Good, evil, fall from grace and redemption. Now, you might ask, why not Christianity? Leaving aside many of the issues, the core problem is blaming things on 'fallen human nature' is a bit like talking about 'historical inevitability'; it doesn't give a plan of action. Meanwhile the Bolsheviks offer alternatives.

There is also the fact of failure. Nazism failed on the battlefield so you can't say its social setup was doomed to failure. Meanwhile Christianity failed to hold its social position despite original dominance.

Finally the society championed as an example against the AltReich (Switzerland) has a TFR of 1.5. In short it is unsustainable and will die in a couple of generations. There is no current example of a long term functional white society.

Anonymous Azimus August 17, 2017 12:35 PM  

36. TheHiss August 17, 2017 10:57 AM
@25. Scottish actually.


Good eye. Still, Scottish is technically British... not arguing! It's just a mental defect I have...

Blogger dc.sunsets August 17, 2017 12:36 PM  

@56 I am reminded of George Carlin's comment related to intelligence. "Just think, half of all people are below average." White people are stupid enough that we don't need to mix with even stupider people.

Yep. And imagine how much that mean IQ has fallen since Carlin made that quip.

Anonymous BBGKB August 17, 2017 12:36 PM  

Happening in Barcelona, blessed by the van of peace.

Incoming: Leftists who say using a vehicle to attack ... Not All Moslems Are Like That, nothing like Cville (and we don't mean the 5 sec before fake news showing aftifa smashing his car window video on VDARE)

Blogger ZhukovG August 17, 2017 12:37 PM  

@Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus: Exactly.

I can't speak for Vox Day, but for my part, I am joining this anti-Nazi pile on because I believe that many of you are truly AMERICAN ALT-RIGHT. You just need to start acting like it.

White is not a Nation. American is a Nation. We need to be American Nationalists. At this early stage we do not need to define precisely what is an American. I believe that will be forged in the crucible of struggle.

A Neapolitan is not a Tuscan but in the 19th century they agreed that they were Italian and with others forged the Italian Nation. A Bavarian is not a Prussian, but fighting side by side in the Franco-Prussian war they forged a German Empire.

I believe the American Alt-Right must be American Nationalist.

Blogger Kristophr August 17, 2017 12:46 PM  

Ya know, the old TEA Party had a simple means for dealing with Agents Provocateur and NAZILarpers:

They would assign someone to stand next to them with a sign saying "This person is not with us", and make sure the sign was between him and any reporter's cameras.

Anonymous PinochetChopperPilot August 17, 2017 1:00 PM  

The next step is to actively troll-promote #NoWhitesInIvyLeague

Agree and amplify. Elitists and white women need to be continually lumped back in with the deplorables and believe me, the Left will take us there.

Any chance to post, particularly in Left wing areas (or YT), the question should be "Why are ANY whites still attending Ivy League institutions, most of whom have benefited from institutional racism!?!? smdh"

"We need a moratorium on white folks (including WW) from even getting IN, to Brown,Yale, Columbia, etc"

The virus has to be seen as out of control, it will sharpen the edges of the camps and facilitate a faster resolution.

Anonymous MIG August 17, 2017 1:04 PM  

@59 dc.sunsets "Is goose-stepping (i.e., LARPing 1937 Germany) supposed to be the Right-side equivalent of bare-butt, chaps-wearing, dog-collar-with-leash-attached, pink-boa-festooned gays marching down the street during Pride Week? "

In my opinion, yes, it's equivalent. Both are subversive theater.

Anonymous PinochetChopperPilot August 17, 2017 1:04 PM  

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#GiveUpYourSeatWhiteFolks

#NoAffirmativeAction4WhiteWomen

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#2018ColorOnlyCandidates



Anonymous surly August 17, 2017 1:06 PM  

5 or so nazis with "I was paid to play Nazi" signs, and another few bystanders with "I was paid to record Nazis" signs, is how you roll.

Take signs to every event. When the torch march joo chants erupt, out come the signs.

Anonymous A Texan August 17, 2017 1:09 PM  

You know, actually, the Nazis were pretty sharp dressers though. No pants hanging off and showing butt crack or boxers. Cool technology to, but they did push that extermination thing a bit too far.

In the future, the alt-Right needs to make it clear that Nazi flags and KKK paraphernalia won't be welcome. That certainly does not help the cause.

Anonymous badhairday August 17, 2017 1:37 PM  

The last Nazi died years ago;
he was Hitler's personal waiter.
He was only taking orders.

#ISISarntLarping

Blogger Kristophr August 17, 2017 1:58 PM  

Meimou wrote:Name one real white supremacist.

You don't need to get behind a group that barely exist.



George Soros. That ex-hitler youth and his daddy help the Nazis quite a bit.

Blogger Desdichado August 17, 2017 2:38 PM  

Kristophr wrote:Meimou wrote:Name one real white supremacist.

You don't need to get behind a group that barely exist.



George Soros. That ex-hitler youth and his daddy help the Nazis quite a bit.

White supremacist. Not Jewish supremacist. The latter is too easy, given than their entire religion and ideology has degenerated from true knowledge of God into nothing more than a tribal supremacy cult.

Anonymous Hitler August 17, 2017 2:39 PM  

Soros did NOTHING WRONG.

Anonymous Bird on a Wing August 17, 2017 3:00 PM  

Speaking of sets, subsets and rhetoric . . .

A group of us were ordering lunch. After looking at the menu, the Englishman asks us Americans, “What is the distinction between sandwiches and hamburgers?”

I replied, “All hamburgers are sandwiches. Not all sandwiches are hamburgers.”

“Ah!” He replied, “I’ll remember that.”


(Writing this down has removed a lot of its charisma. It has a striking ring to it in person, and I’ve used it in other conversations.)

Blogger VFM #7634 August 17, 2017 3:19 PM  

White is not a Nation. American is a Nation. We need to be American Nationalists. At this early stage we do not need to define precisely what is an American. I believe that will be forged in the crucible of struggle.

@70 ZhukovG
There's a race problem there. It's already quite clear that the black slave-descended population is a hostile, resentful, Marxist element which will never, ever be "American".

It will be necessary to amend that to "white [Celto-Germanic] American" and "black American", at the very least.

Blogger Elder Son August 17, 2017 4:00 PM  

@10 Francis Parker Yockey

In the court of public opinion, this matters:

Wholesome?

What some of you thought America witnessed.

Or, wholesome?

What Americans actually witnessed.

Whether you like it, or not.

Anonymous deplorable August 17, 2017 4:26 PM  

"It will be necessary to amend that to "white [Celto-Germanic] American" and "black American", at the very least."

Or Scandinavian. Nice people and all but too damn passive and left leaning.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 17, 2017 4:51 PM  

Finally the society championed as an example against the AltReich (Switzerland) has a TFR of 1.5. In short it is unsustainable and will die in a couple of generations.

So, you don't understand selective breeding then?
Pro tip; don't go into ranching.

OpenID Sidehill Dodger August 17, 2017 5:35 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:I believe the American Alt-Right must be American Nationalist.
Thank you for that comment, Marshal. I agree. I am watching comments on this blog a bit anxiously, trying to figure out what the majority opinion--and Vox's--are on this question.

It is stupid and wrong to rely on skin color as an indicator of who is with or against us. Why exclude potential allies? A Catholic ex-Mexican might very well make a good American; a black might make a valuable contribution. This should be obvious, but the "white nationalists" don't seem to think so.

Speaking as an Old Hun Bastard, I continue to assert that--of course--Germans make the best possible Americans. But I'll let it slide.

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:09 PM  

@ Josh (the sexiest thing here)
> Given your reaction, it looks like this meme hit the target.

Given your reaction, it looks like you have no retort.

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:10 PM  

@James Dixon

> All the more reason to keep stating the truth, isn't it?


Yeah totally. Keep fighting a war that was lost decades ago.

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:13 PM  

@ Cail Corishev

> Better to say, Yes they exist, but no we don't have anything to do with them, the way liberals approve of and cover for their Alt-Left terror groups.

The Left will stay you associated with them. So why even try to distance yourself? Why not destroy the "Nazi = Bad" meme, instead of accepting it like a beta cuck?

OpenID leukosfash August 17, 2017 7:15 PM  

To them you're all nazis just for being here. Optics indeed.

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:16 PM  

@ Koniac

> Fundamentally, Nazism is a mono-testicular vegetarian ideology, which explains its appeal to incel soymales.

Accepting the Left's frame beautifully.


> The Old Testament literally wouldn't even have allowed Hitler in the door of the temple.

Same for most people who ever lived, your point?

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:19 PM  

@ Axe Head

> Seems to me that if you think they are going to call you a Nazi no matter what you do you can.

> A. Dress and act like a Nazi so that normies think "yep that's a Nazi" and be turned off.

> B. Dress and act nothing like a Nazi so that normies think "WTF that guy isn't a Nazi, those leftists are acting like a bunch of hysterical faggots again".

C. Dress like a normie, and accept that a small contingent will be LARPing so that normies think "WTF why the media only showing me 1% of the crowd?!"

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:27 PM  

@Meimou

> Right wing normies know NS is left wing and many do not believe that neo nazis and KKK members are not right wing,

Normies think they are right wing, just crazy or racist.

Our choice is to:

A. Accept the Left's frame that Nazi = Bad (How has that worked for the Right? Wasn't Trump literally Hitler?)
B. Try to associate the Nazi's with the Left (This is essentially Dems R the REAL Racist. Has that worked? Or has every Republican been called a racist?)
C. Destroy the Left's "Nazi = Bad" meme.

C is the option not yet tried, and it worked for n-word, queer, gay, etc.

Anonymous Sorta Fan August 17, 2017 7:35 PM  

@dc.sunsets

> Is goose-stepping (i.e., LARPing 1937 Germany) supposed to be the Right-side equivalent of bare-butt, chaps-wearing, dog-collar-with-leash-attached, pink-boa-festooned gays marching down the street during Pride Week?

The second person you describe is not reviled by the Left at all. WE hate those kind of people. They don't hate or insult their own kind even when they are so ridiculously awful.

> There's a meme for you. On the Left: Said bare-butt clown. On the Right: Neo-Nazi/KKK LARPer.

OK, so how is this at all meant to work for the right? Demonizing something already demonized? This is the same as "I'm not a Nazi. I hate Nazi's." or "I'm not a racist." It is accepting the left's frame.

> Caption: If CNN insists the guy on the right is typical of Trump supporters, then the guy on the Left is a typical Clinton/Pelosi/Lieberman/Sanders supporters.

This is terrible. Who is this meme for? What is it trying to do? Both sides already believes this about the other.

The difference is: the Left SUPPORTS this kind of thing and GOES to gay parades. Does the Right go and support their fringe elements' rallies?

Anonymous LurkingPuppy August 17, 2017 7:52 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:Maybe those were actors, but we do know that Nazis exist. They've been commenting here in recent days, after all.
The activity level and behavior pattern looks like the same paid shilling that the rest of the Left uses. They're all (((Fake Right))).

Anonymous Shrill August 17, 2017 7:53 PM  

It is stupid and wrong to rely on skin color as an indicator of who is with or against us. Why exclude potential allies?

A. It is protecting the genetic legacy of the White Race;
B. The Left has polarized the Blacks, Browns, and others into hating WHITES. We are loosing precisely because we aren't acting like a group. Ethnocentrism beats open-societies every. single. time.



A Catholic ex-Mexican might very well make a good American; a black might make a valuable contribution.

This is full-on magic dirt.


This should be obvious, but the "white nationalists" don't seem to think so.

White nationalists accept that other races can do great things, but it's not about that. It is about protecting the tribe.


Blogger VD August 17, 2017 7:57 PM  

C is the option not yet tried, and it worked for n-word, queer, gay, etc.

They've been trying that since 1960. Give. It. Up.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 17, 2017 8:12 PM  

Are the people this is targeting smart enough to care?

OpenID Sidehill Dodger August 17, 2017 8:47 PM  

Shrill wrote:White nationalists accept that other races can do great things, but it's not about that. It is about protecting the tribe.

The TRIBE? Oh yeah, let's hunker down around the fire and sing our tribal chant. Where's my tom-tom? I'm going to be charitable and assume that you were speaking metaphorically.

So it's white people only, is it? How many generations back do you have to prove pure whiteness? Does a single non-pure ancestor x generations back disqualify you? It's quite the bureaucracy you'll be setting up. And SO many surprised white-looking people being carted to the guillotine.

Racial allegiance is stupid thinking. I can sign up for American nationalism, but not something that's going to require me to give a DNA sample and complete family history. And anyone else who acts sane can sign up for the same nation. All they have to do is say "I am an American first; no other identities matter to me." We should make that a requirement for citizenship...and for retaining it.
That's what I say, anyway.

Anonymous Shrill August 17, 2017 9:04 PM  

They've been trying that since 1960. Give. It. Up.

Can you call a homosexual a queer without being punished or looking ridiculous?

Can you call a black a n***** without being punished or looking evil?

Do blacks call themselves to each other? Do homosexuals call themselves?

They now own those words. We need to own all of the slurs the Left uses against us.

Anonymous Shrill August 17, 2017 9:11 PM  

The TRIBE? Oh yeah, let's hunker down around the fire and sing our tribal chant. Where's my tom-tom? I'm going to be charitable and assume that you were speaking metaphorically.

The autism is bright in this one.

So it's white people only, is it?

Yes.

How many generations back do you have to prove pure whiteness? Does a single non-pure ancestor x generations back disqualify you?

How many generations does it take to prove someone is your kin?

It's quite the bureaucracy you'll be setting up. And SO many surprised white-looking people being carted to the guillotine.

Do you really think that is what we would do? ROFLMAO

Also, "white-looking" =/= White

Racial allegiance is stupid thinking.

Ethnocentrism always wins.

I can sign up for American nationalism, but not something that's going to require me to give a DNA sample and complete family history. And anyone else who acts sane can sign up for the same nation.

So an American can be a pygmy Bantu as long as he is sane?

All they have to do is say "I am an American first; no other identities matter to me."

How is that working today? Hmmmmmmmmmm

We should make that a requirement for citizenship...and for retaining it.
That's what I say, anyway.


So, you want to mind-control the populace? That is less invasive to you than gene testing?

Blogger VD August 17, 2017 9:21 PM  

We need to own all of the slurs the Left uses against us.

You won't do it in the 16 or so years you've got left.

Anonymous Shrill August 17, 2017 9:29 PM  

You won't do it in the 16 or so years you've got left.

A war is not one with one soldier.

Anonymous Raker Tooth August 17, 2017 9:48 PM  

Is there a relative proportion thing, where the more money and effort have gone into a brand, the more resilient it is?
When we hear:
Microsoft, we think operating system
Google, we think search engine.
John Deere, we think tractors.
Colt, we think guns
Yamaha, we think motorcycles. (or pianos)
.
Brand names are endearing, here are some that have filed for bankruptcy, with the year. We still associate them with a product or service.
Pan Am......1991
Tower Records....2004
Polaroid....2001
Circuit City....2008
Borders....2011
.
A LOT OF EFFORT has gone into branding Nazis as the most vile people on earth. You cannot shake it.

Anonymous Shrill August 17, 2017 10:09 PM  

A LOT OF EFFORT has gone into branding Nazis as the most vile people on earth. You cannot shake it.

Let's accept that this is true. Why would you then use it on people on the Right, when you are being called the same thing by the Left? It only serves to legitimize their insult.

But branding is not so solid. It can fall apart very easy. The Simpsons, Sears, Lost, MySpace, etc. Or, grow very quickly Gay Marriage/Trans.

Trump was called horrid, yet he won, when people we able to support him in confidence they won't lose everything or appearance. Same for Brexit.


Blogger ZhukovG August 17, 2017 11:04 PM  

Sidehill Dodger: It is best to try not to let emotion get the better of you. It is almost a certitude that whatever ends up being the definition of American is going to be some combination of European descended peoples. People just naturally organize based on commonality. In nature, gazelles don't try to hang out with the lions.

That said, suppose I was an African or Latin American descended person. I would still do everything in my power to promote American Nationalism even if I knew I would never be considered an ethnic American myself. I would do this because I love America, but also I will likely be able to keep my citizenship.

Another possibility is following Russia's example and awarding ethnic minorities 'autonomous republics'. These are areas which while still under Moscow, enjoy a great deal of internal autonomy. The ethnic minorities are considered Russian citizens and their language and culture are protected by law. They do however have to accept that, while they enjoy all the rights of Russian citizenship, their nations are effectively subordinate to the Russian Nation.

Point being, it's way too early to freak out over what some internet Nazi claims. Frankly with what is coming, we'll all be fortunate to survive, let alone have any say in how the future is ordered.

Anonymous Raker Tooth August 17, 2017 11:17 PM  

@105
Interesting perspective, worth contemplating; but initially, my thought is that I'm not using it on people in the right. I'm telling people on the right that it's a hill too high to climb, you'll never ascend it. We still think of the Simpsons as some cartoon, Sears as a big retailer, and so on. The branding may have lost some effectiveness for market share, but the names will long be associated with a product or service. There were a lot of people who were in favor of Trump. You'll never see those numbers for Nazi. A charismatic young leader with Nazi ideas? A lot more plausible without the old symbol.
Maybe it shouldn't be put forth as a statement: "You shouldn't do this", but as a question: "Why are you doing this?"

Blogger Sam August 17, 2017 11:46 PM  

@85
You do realize that fertility is lower for high IQ individuals, right? The exact opposite of what you are implying. We are literally breeding the capability for civilization out of white people.

Blogger Alexandros August 17, 2017 11:51 PM  

These memes need to be worked on; even my old man wouldn't be forwarding these. Effective memes should make people laugh—for whatever reason mspaint does this splendidly. For example, Mspaint that's done either intentionally terribly by a good artist or a terrible picture done by a terrible artist gets a chuckle from even old guys like my uncles.

50000 hours in mspaint from some anon in /christian/ illustrating my example:

http://imgur.com/XYnr0Ia

Moreover, effective memes are based on already established archetypes, hence the bajillion "pepe" images that infest everywhere from 8chan to reddit, to my dad's forwarded emails.

People see what's posted above and they immediately roll their eyes even when they agree. If your target is baby boomers then maybe you have a point, but when even my dad is sending me /pol/ or /v/ memes, I doubt it.

Blogger Alexandros August 18, 2017 12:09 AM  

More examples since the meme quality has been bothering me:

http://imgur.com/a/WOxGE

These aren't even good or original memes; in fact, all of them are permutations on old memes.

the point is to showcase how effective it is to reuse what is already out there and transform its payload into some message you wish to convey.

Anonymous Carlos Danger August 18, 2017 12:53 AM  

This plays into the enemy's hands. Silence is better and taking the attitude of no enemies on the right should be the rule. When they repudiate Antifas we can repudiate our bully boys.

Blogger My Dead Gramps August 18, 2017 5:46 AM  

@111. Larping socialist idiots aren't to our right.

Anonymous Avalanche August 18, 2017 8:06 AM  

@99 "All they have to do is say "I am an American first; no other identities matter to me." We should make that a requirement for citizenship...and for retaining it. That's what I say, anyway."

Yes, but only because you are an ill- or UN-educated person. (Not entirely your fault; they've been brainwashing/NOT educating you since birth. But if you're old enough to read here, you're old enough get SELF-educate! Get on it!) Stick around, keep reading, watch Vox's DarkStreams (the last 20-or-so on Periscope, many of the rest of YouTube) and get educated! (Read "Cuckservatives" -- great book!)

What you describe, we call a "paperwork American." I can't remember who wrote this but: Imagine there is virgin territory, big enough for a country, and magically all the "Chinese Americans" or "Mexican Americans" or "black Americans: were removed there with all the resources and information they needed to create their own country. Would -- COULD -- they possible create another America?

No. Not ever. Not possible. The Chinese would create another China. The Mexicans and blacks would create their own versions of the horrific violent hellholes such as they have always created EVERYwhere they EVER go.

*AMERICA* requires the native stock! AMERICA is not based on paperwork or ideas or conceptions or good wishes! (OR immigrants and foreigners!) Until you realize this (currently unpalatable) truth, you'll never understand what is happening.

Vox also always says: where do you think racially homogeneous countries (nations) COME from?! They come from racially heterogeneous countries after the killing or forced expulsions.

Diversity + proximity = war.

Blogger John rockwell August 18, 2017 10:39 AM  

@Avalanche

Killing/explusion or combination into one people.

Blogger LP9 August 18, 2017 3:45 PM  

Moving on, its wrong America does not offer compassionate choices, suicide is bad, its just playing God when a person is too sick to live on.

Pain pills and "help" are jokes forcing people to live lives they are tired of living.

Given, I have no interest in a dead 70+ old bullshit dys-story from Germany, only saying that since America wants to be high and wasted per the law, then let us die in peace while making $$ from pot stocks, all a joke.

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